Parks and Recreation Committee to Discuss C&RC Rates Monday

The committee will decide whether to recommend a rate increase.

The parks and recreation committee is scheduled meet at 6:30 p.m. Monday, Feb. 18 in the commissioners' meeting room at the municipal building.

The committee is scheduled to discuss a possible rate increase for Community and Recreation Center members. Each year the committee makes a recommendation to the board of commissioners on whether they think rates should be increased or not.

July 2011 was the last time rates increased. Adult and family rates increased by five percent and youth rates nearly doubled. Senior rates remained the same. There was no rate increase in 2012.

The committee meeting is a public meeting.

William Johns February 16, 2013 at 05:31 PM
Hopefully for non-residents! Still reeling from the tax increase on residents from the huge burden created by the non-referrendum (legal??) debt foisted on taxpayers to create this white elephant! Tax increase + resident fees > non-resident fee!
Cindy DeLo February 16, 2013 at 05:56 PM
Please don't ask for anymore money from the resident members. The more we spend as members the less we enjoy.
Duke February 16, 2013 at 06:48 PM
The parks and recreation committee should seriously consider a rate reduction for residents of Upper St. Clair. What really should be implemented is a rate reduction of 5% per year for every year a person was a resident of Upper St. Clair after the 10th year of residency. That would reward the long term residents who have paid outlandishly high taxes over the years and not the johnny come latelys who move to Upper St. Clair just for their child's schooling and then move when their children graduate.
Ashton February 16, 2013 at 10:38 PM
Rates are high enough, don't increase.
Glenn Robinson February 16, 2013 at 10:42 PM
Two ways to increase revenue for the rec center, raise rates or increase membership. If the membership isn't growing, that is where they should start. There is plenty of capacity left and untold opportunities to attract new members.
Tracy Schuster February 17, 2013 at 03:36 PM
Glenn, the article doesn't say a word about whether membership has increased over the past couple of years, but based on the fact that the pool is filled to capacity on nearly every warm day (making it impossible to enjoy), I'd say it has definitely increased significantly. For that reason, I have been considering getting rid of my membership, as have a few friends of mine. If rates go up, the decision will be made for me, and I am guessing many others as well. The real decision should be whether or not to build an addition to the pool; one intended for people over the age of eight. If they do that, then an increase will be justified.
Glenn Robinson February 17, 2013 at 08:56 PM
I over simplified the situation. There are other revenue streams to examine. Room rentals, additional fee programs, etc should be maximized before considering a rate increase. Membership should look at which services are used and focus on increasing members that will use those with excess capacity. There is also the cost side of the equation that must be scrutinized. It is way too easy to go back to the tax payer instead of looking to the rec center management to improve the financials. I completely agree that a pool for adults and older kids is needed.
Dearuscmom February 17, 2013 at 09:58 PM
Glenn, with all due respect you show you again show you have no true understanding of the USC Rec Center nor do most that post on here. Glenn, did you attend any the many, many meetings that took place in the past decade regarding the USC Rec Center or will you attend Monday night? Capacity? Do you understand this at all? The only locations in the center that are pay as you go are the fitness areas, gyms and pools. All other areas are for "community group" usage. This includes the lobby area. I see tons of groups using those rooms for free as designed. These areas replaced rooms in the township building that were used by groups. If I remember correctly, the pools were designed to be effiecient in both water amount usage and treatment(chemicals, heating). Not money pits like Dormont, South Hills YMCA, Mt. Lebo, Scott and so on. No other clubs in the area like our USC Rec Center have an outdoor pool. Why is that? They are money pits. The onjly reason there is an outdoor pool is because a group got together in the final hours before a vote on the center years ago. I am sure you were not there at that time as well. Now you want to add more to the outdoor and not raise rates but charge the Township to creat more revenue. You are truly lost on this one and have no understanding of the center. Let's build more, make cost less and charge the township to run a business with an elected body that only is concerned with reelection. Brilliant, just brilliant. Run for office.
Bud the Business Man February 18, 2013 at 12:45 AM
I would like to know what the percentage is for the occupancy of the rooms that are available. It seems to me because of the harsh rules that are imposed most of the rooms are empty the majority of the time. Why do we not make this into a business where one could have a "High School Reunion, a Wedding, a New Years Eve Party etc..." Of course you need to establish a list of caterers and also allow alcohol! This could all be accomplished with having an off duty Upper St. Clair police officer hired, at the expense of the renter to be security! Now that would make up for some of the needed revenue!
Dearuscmom February 18, 2013 at 01:12 AM
Bud, I read that the USC Rec Center has been running with a surplus. Where did you get your info for "needed revenue"? Seems like a bunch of folks really are misinformed.
Bud February 18, 2013 at 02:24 AM
Then why are they discussing a needed rate increase? Just for the heck of it!
Dearuscmom February 18, 2013 at 02:39 AM
I would think that a well run organization review their structures every year. I don't know about you or your purchases but the price for any apple product goes up almost yearly despite record earnings. Why would the USC Rec Center be any different?
Dearuscmom February 18, 2013 at 02:43 AM
Bud, Isn't that would any good business would do? Review their structures. My apple products go up in price or stay the same regardless of record profits.
Dearuscmom February 18, 2013 at 02:51 AM
I am at the USC Rec Center almost 5 days a week and the service/facilities destroy my experiences at both the JCC and the Y(as if there is even any comparison). I paid more at those places for less, much less. We are really lucky to have this and I am starting to think we are underappreciating what we get.
Buddy February 18, 2013 at 11:50 PM
This is a community run organization that is for the community. As a community organization (I Do not know their charter or their by-laws) but I would expect if their is a surplus that it be returned to the community. Comparing this to Apple; Shareholders expect a return for their investment. As a TAXPAYER (Owner) I expect the same; lower my membership fee or send me a tax rebate! You really do not know what your talking about do you USCMOM!


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